JacquesR wrote:
@rdeutz: Robert, you mention that the proposal "lacks on substance" and it seems therefore you feel you cannot approve something like that. If having all the details worked out in advance was the requirement that previous leadership teams followed, then the fork would not have happened, and neither would the PLT and CLT leadership teams have come into being in 2009.
More detail and greater clarity should of course be the goal (to avoid some of the making-things-up-as-we-go-along of the past), but I feel this proposal has far more detail and substance to it than what was there for any previous proposed or affected changes in Joomla/OSM structures.
If the leadership does approve a document, and there is substantive changes after that to the document, then it would of course require another vote. (or that's my assumption)
That said, I do like the idea of implementing such a big change in steps, and first starting with a few changes that are easiest to implement. As long as people, on both sides of the debate, accept that the steps and path might change along the way.
It might be better as documents we have had in the past, but that doesn't makes it good one and something we can vote on. Compared with the development it is as we would release a CMS but hadn't figured out how we save the data.
I am all for changing something to be in a better situation, Advisory Board a good idea (an old idea we called it years ago elders board) , Ombudsman: I am for it. Better communication yes, for sure. But not at one go. We made this mistake two times as we moved from 1.0 to 1.5 and from 1.5 to 1.6 without a solid concept and a lot of b/c breaks.
I am really wondering who will be implementing the change. I would expect when people vote yes that they are also responsible for implementing it. Some people already leaving or there terms are ending soon. So I hope we will not end in the situation of a approved structure change without people implementing it. I can only speak for my own, I am not available to implement this change. I would help to implement some parts of it, but if the project is going for the big bang, I am out.
Statistics: Posted by rdeutz — Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:21 am
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